Posts by Witness My Fury

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i found the woman of my dreams!

by varian in

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last weekend i had a date.

i immidaiately fell in love.

we met the following day again, and arranged another date for tomorrow.. well, yesterday she sent me a text message, stating that she no longer has an interest in seeing me again, because she discovered other pics of myself on other dating web sites.

Witness My Fury

If she is this jealous and controlling after 2 dates, then you can expect it to only get worse....Some examples for you to look forward to:

Expect to have to "check in" at least twice daily and tell her where you are and what you are doing. expect to have many arguments about your roving eyes while out in public. Expect her to censor your TV / magazine / internet viewing as she can't tolerate your looking at other women.

I was seriously involved with a woman whose terrible jealousy came to the surface after a couple of months, it became obvious to me this was where i was headed so i terminated the relationship.

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My Last Thread

by Maze in

my interest in posting here has deadened lately.

this will likely be my last thread.

initially i participated here because i was interested in sharpening my perception against opposing points of view.

Witness My Fury

Awesome quote Abbadon:

I was looking at buying a new car yesterday. It seemed ok and was comfy inside, but I told the salesman I wanted to read up on it and maybe find out what people who owned one, or had owned one thought of it.

He told me that on no account should I listen to anyone other than him, and that I especially should avoid listening to ex-owners, as they were liars and immoral.

How come if I buy that car I am an idiot, but if I 'buy' a religion with the same attitude, I would not be an idiot.

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Next time someone says "as JWs were all imperfect but it's still God's Organization"....

by RagingBull in

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after seeing some vids and links yesterday about the society's intrest in hedge funds, as well as being in the united way (they have a code for donations thru the united way) i decided to search the wt cd to see if anything negative was said about either.

look what i found;.

from the 2/15/1972 watchtower.

Witness My Fury

The WTBTS are MASTERS at double speak. The problem with that is they now no longer know when they are doing it and have lost themselves in their own long trail of self conceit / self deceit.

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You also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him

by jean-luc picard in

you also must be ready, because the son of man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.

( luke 12:40. new international version).

so logically, if jws expect him soooooon, thats proof that he's not coming soon..

Witness My Fury

Believing you wont leave school and need to go to work has got to be the shitiest way to prepare a young person for the real world of work and responsibilities.... It sure did the mindfuck on me and i left school in 1985. I'm STILL picking up the pieces of my life now.

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New Here.

by BoleynGirl in

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so i'll start at the beginning.

then she gave birth to me, and realised that life was a miracle.

she began searching for god.

Witness My Fury

Welcome to freedom of thought. Guilt and fear are the very effective methods of mind control used by them, once you can SEE it there's no holding you.

Welcome BolelynGirl.

Welcome Lilypadaz.

Welcome Diest.

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Re: Teaching Bible Students about "The Faithful Slave"

by dontplaceliterature in

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i've been reading hassan's book this week (finally got my hard copy), and have been taking notes!

i came accross something today that i'm sure someone else on this site has uncovered before.

just in case, i thought i might point it out as i'm sure it bears repeating.

Witness My Fury

It's a great book. But if the reader isn't already searching researching or doubting then the info will not really register in their brains as being relavent to JWs. One of my relatives read my copy and couldnt see the connection

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607 wrong using ONLY the bible (and some common sense)

by Witness My Fury in

if this has been covered before i apologise in advance.

using only the bible and a bit of common sense.. ok, here goes:.

do the "seventy years" count from jerusalems destruction or not?

Witness My Fury

Good Lord he's dumber than a bag of hammers. Here's that footnote he quoted again for you:

This is what John Barclay's translation of Against Apion renders Josephus' words in Chapter 19 regarding the 70-year period when the land of Judah lie desolate (in 1.19):

Naboukodrosorus [Nebuchadnezzar] ... defeated them all and burned the sanctuary in Hierosolyma,439 and utterly uprooted all our people, and transferred them to Babylon,440 with the the result that the city was deserted for seventy years until Cyrus, the first king of the Persians.441

The following are Barclay's footnotes 439 through 441 (note that Greek characters are not represented here):

439

440

441
Reading prw/tou ("the first") with Münster (and Reinach), following Eusebius. This summary covers both the citations to follow (1.135-41, 146-53), but the biblical figure of 70 years (Jer 25:12; 29:10 [=LXX 36:10]; Dan 9:2; Zech 1:12; Ant. 10.112, 184; 11.1; 20.233) is not justified by the later calculations (1.154, 159), and is quietly forgotten. Its inclusion here suggests how much Josephus writes this introduction in biblical mode, while claiming to say no more than Berosus. For the utter desertion of the city (excusing the failure to rebuild the temple for two generations), cf. Ant. 10.184.Josephus highlights the Judean captives from among those Berosus will list in 1.137, and compresses the different phases of captivity (cf. Ant. 10.98, 101, 149) into a single event, to match Berosus' account.The subject is presumably Nebuchadnezzar, but the change is not clear in the Greek, as Josephus compresses the narrative severely. At the same time, there is a strategic expansion, to include reference to the Jerusalem temple, which was apparently never mentioned by Berosus himself (if it had been, Josephus would surely have cited the reference). Josephus attributes mention of the temple not only here, but also at 1.145 (cf. 1.154, 160). The addition is necessary not only because Josephus considers the destruction of the temple the most important event in Nebuchadnezzar's reign, but also because it is crucial for the chronological calculations which follow (1.154, 159). On Josephus' reaction to the apparent humiliation of this event, see 2.129-32. The temple was destroyed in 587/6 BCE (Wiseman 1985: 36-39); see 2 Kings 25 with biblical parallels and Ant. 10.144-48 (indicating how central this event was to Josephus' understanding of history).

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How To Leave Jehovah's Witnesses Easily and Painlessly

by Daniel Metz in

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i have just thought of a way to leave jehovah's witnesses using information from the new shepherd the flock of god book.

it's quite simply: rebaptism.

here are the steps:.

Witness My Fury

Public declaration and baptism = game over and done deal... sorry. It doesnt matter about specifics, those two things are what matters and they have you on file as a baptized JW.

The only possible way this would work is if you were baptized very young and then it will depend on the elders looking at it and the CO as it would be escalated to him. So unless you were lets say 14 or under at baptism I cant see this ever working.

I was baptized at 16 and feel mine was "invalid" because of my age and lack of ability to properly research my religion at the time. However I know I cant use that as a legitimate way out as i know it wont wash with anyone, so i'm mid fade instead.

Welcome, and a damn good 1st post btw

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607 wrong using ONLY the bible (and some common sense)

by Witness My Fury in

if this has been covered before i apologise in advance.

using only the bible and a bit of common sense.. ok, here goes:.

do the "seventy years" count from jerusalems destruction or not?

Witness My Fury

Do you think you have the right to dictate to me what to believe or what not to believe? Do you feel you have the right to voice dissent over what things Jehovah's Witnesses believe and what things Jehovah's Witnesses do not believe?

Do you feel you have the right to overrule the GBs authority over you eggnog? .....Do you feel you are BETTER than them? Do you?

You clearly DO. Because otherwise why are YOU HERE in direct opposition to their wishes? Hypocrite, first extract the rafter from your own eye...

So then Mr Uber HYPOCRITE Eggnog, get the fuck off this site like you are repeatedly told to do so by your mind control masters.

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What is your standing in a congregation if you're a man of 40 and never married?

by dgp in

on a different thread (http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/private/211210/3/my-life-well-the-first-part-at-least.

someone commented that.

as a sister especially you are nothing when not attached to you husband.. this made me curious.

Witness My Fury

Spot on Reality79. I fell out of the social clique when i was about 28, I basically got fed up with it and being used. Once you are out of the main social circles it's game over unless you are either lucky or very persistent of which i was neither.